Hey, I never said it was not craft I feel left out
I don't think anyone here would say that.
Posted 17 May 2017 - 05:53 AM
Hey, I never said it was not craft I feel left out
I don't think anyone here would say that.
Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:03 AM
Hey, I never said it was not craft I feel left out
Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:12 AM
Hey, I never said it was not craft I feel left out
Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:14 AM
I have seen many, many homebrewers look down their nose at any style in this zip code but I didn't mean to imply that was you. Your post 36 tells all... although you did say that you would have scoffed at a beer like this a few years ago!
Prior to my trip to Germany I would have passed or looked away from many lagers. Fresh, good beer changes your outlook.
Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:18 AM
Prior to my trip to Germany I would have passed or looked away from many lagers. Fresh, good beer changes your outlook.
Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:27 AM
Right. And while we're at it, let's clear up one thing: When a homebrewer makes a beer in one of these styles, it's NOT going to be Corona or Miller 64 or any of that stuff. It's going to be a much more enjoyable beer... one with character and depth and calories and enjoyment. When I was in Europe in 2013, I had some very good beer in Austria, Czech Republic and Germany. Many of them were a polished gold, 5%, 25 IBUs (or so), fresh and delicious. Beers like that should not be confused with beers where you get 30 cans for $9.99.Prior to my trip to Germany I would have passed or looked away from many lagers. Fresh, good beer changes your outlook.
Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:43 AM
Right. And while we're at it, let's clear up one thing: When a homebrewer makes a beer in one of these styles, it's NOT going to be Corona or Miller 64 or any of that stuff. It's going to be a much more enjoyable beer..
well, it's either going to be that are pretty awful b/c there are no hops/roast to cover up the obvious flaws in their process.
Posted 17 May 2017 - 07:06 PM
well, it's either going to be that are pretty awful b/c there are no hops/roast to cover up the obvious flaws in their process.
Maybe. My first lagers were crude attempts before refining my process. Just like my first ales. Learning.
Taking on something like this beer can drive you to improve your skills.
Posted 18 May 2017 - 03:39 AM
Maybe. My first lagers were crude attempts before refining my process. Just like my first ales. Learning.
Taking on something like this beer can drive you to improve your skills.
I've just had quite a few bad light lagers from noob homebrewers. it's a very unforgiving set of styles.
Posted 18 May 2017 - 04:57 AM
I've just had quite a few bad light lagers from noob homebrewers. it's a very unforgiving set of styles.
Oh, I see it happen all the time on the bigger brewing forums. Bad advice given from people who don't even brew the style. The harder path is drowned out by the lazy masses. Goes something like this:
"Hey, I want to brew something like Miller Lite for my FIL who hates craft beer. Anyone got a recipe?"
Random DA: "Yeah duder, just throw some S05 in a Munton's cervesa kit. Tastes exactly like Coors Light."
"I can't lager, will it be OK in my 80 degree closet?"
"Sure, anything you brew will be better than (insert macro here)"
Posted 18 May 2017 - 08:55 AM
Posted 18 May 2017 - 09:15 AM
Oh, I see it happen all the time on the bigger brewing forums. Bad advice given from people who don't even brew the style. The harder path is drowned out by the lazy masses. Goes something like this:
"Hey, I want to brew something like Miller Lite for my FIL who hates craft beer. Anyone got a recipe?"
Random DA: "Yeah duder, just throw some S05 in a Munton's cervesa kit. Tastes exactly like Coors Light."
"I can't lager, will it be OK in my 80 degree closet?"
"Sure, anything you brew will be better than (insert macro here)"
So going to use Cascade for bittering? I guess I'm not getting the Columbus part or the Cascade part. I probably wouldn't want those flavors in a light lager myself but if it's just for bittering I'm sure it would be fine. I'd probably use Magnum if it were me.Holy Fug, I thought I had some Columbus. Shifting gear to some Cascade. Also contemplating going Noble with some Haller's and/or Tett's.
Posted 18 May 2017 - 09:55 AM
So going to use Cascade for bittering? I guess I'm not getting the Columbus part or the Cascade part. I probably wouldn't want those flavors in a light lager myself but if it's just for bittering I'm sure it would be fine. I'd probably use Magnum if it were me.
At 60 I doubt you get much flavor from the hops. I know some may disagree with me but that is my stance. For me, doing a 30 minute boil I would go neutral or Nobel.
Posted 18 May 2017 - 09:58 AM
American light lager is typically what? 8-10, maybe 12 IBUs? Throw in a pellet and a half of Apollo at 60 and call it good.
Posted 18 May 2017 - 11:44 AM
American light lager is typically what? 8-10, maybe 12 IBUs? Throw in a pellet and a half of Apollo at 60 and call it good.
Posted 18 May 2017 - 11:57 AM
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Posted 18 May 2017 - 12:13 PM
That sounds good. I also tend to take a beer like this and add a bit of something that will give it a little depth... Vienna, Munich 1, pale ale malt or MO, GP, etc. I have no problem with "light" but I don't want Corona so if I just use pilsner malt and maybe flaked corn, I tend to get something that's a little too wimpy for me. But this thread is about "extremely light lager" so using pilsner malt, some corn, keeping the ABV on the low side (less grain) and even keeping the pH in check will help to keep the color very pale if that's your goal. Keep us posted.Thank you Ken. My recipe keeps evolving, with minor complexities in an attempt to hide any unforeseen yet potential process or water flaws. Perhaps a little magnum on the front and a pinch of crystal on the back.
Posted 18 May 2017 - 12:19 PM
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